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		<title>Comment on br: Read the fine print, then watch against changes by Brad K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natalie,

Of course.  What I meant to get at, was the ethics and honor.  Do the ethics, the honor, the discipline all hold true when in public as well as in private?

It is tempting to think that someone that is *well received* is a *good* person.  Our President Obama was well received when he won the election, and when he entered office - that is, unless you feel strongly about owning guns being a citizen&#039;s responsibility for the safety and security of the community, the nation, and the home.  Or unless you work in one of the industries that his Labor Union backers want more representation in.  Or unless . . . This narcissist put on a great show for a lot of people - but earned precious little respect for what he had done, or from an awful lot of people.

I understand that we want to feel proud to introduce our partner to friends and family, that they be instantly well received.  But I think mere being well received is a ploy, a skill, likely related to a life skill in winning bed partners, though not every &quot;pleasant&quot; person has chosen bedroom merry go round as a life&#039;s goal.

I tend to distrust those with such charisma that it makes their character difficult to see.

As far as being well received, and feeling proud to introduce your great &quot;Catch&quot; - if you are looking for more than respect for you or your catch, then shame on you.  With respect, at least we have someone worth getting to know.  With a glam front - we know that, as Judge Judy put it in her book, &quot;Beauty is skin deep, but dumb is forever.&quot;

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natalie,</p>
<p>Of course.  What I meant to get at, was the ethics and honor.  Do the ethics, the honor, the discipline all hold true when in public as well as in private?</p>
<p>It is tempting to think that someone that is *well received* is a *good* person.  Our President Obama was well received when he won the election, and when he entered office &#8211; that is, unless you feel strongly about owning guns being a citizen&#8217;s responsibility for the safety and security of the community, the nation, and the home.  Or unless you work in one of the industries that his Labor Union backers want more representation in.  Or unless . . . This narcissist put on a great show for a lot of people &#8211; but earned precious little respect for what he had done, or from an awful lot of people.</p>
<p>I understand that we want to feel proud to introduce our partner to friends and family, that they be instantly well received.  But I think mere being well received is a ploy, a skill, likely related to a life skill in winning bed partners, though not every &#8220;pleasant&#8221; person has chosen bedroom merry go round as a life&#8217;s goal.</p>
<p>I tend to distrust those with such charisma that it makes their character difficult to see.</p>
<p>As far as being well received, and feeling proud to introduce your great &#8220;Catch&#8221; &#8211; if you are looking for more than respect for you or your catch, then shame on you.  With respect, at least we have someone worth getting to know.  With a glam front &#8211; we know that, as Judge Judy put it in her book, &#8220;Beauty is skin deep, but dumb is forever.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on br: Read the fine print, then watch against changes by Natalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the most part, I agree with you, but it&#039;s this whole how they act with family and friends that confuses a lot of women because if they see that he is great with others they assume that he will be great with them, and this is not always the case. Friends and family *do* matter but only in the context of the fact that he&#039;s treating you decently *anyway*. Some guys are all about the public show. In private, they&#039;re not very nice people and the public don&#039;t always get to find out their duplicitous side because they don&#039;t have to engage with him in the way that a romantic relationship demands.
.-= &#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BaggageReclaim-TheGuideToSingleLivingDatingRelationshipsAndOfCourseManTaming/~3/qMaw2EONIDk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Terms &amp; Conditions Apply – Reading the ‘Small Print’ in Dubious Relationships&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part, I agree with you, but it&#8217;s this whole how they act with family and friends that confuses a lot of women because if they see that he is great with others they assume that he will be great with them, and this is not always the case. Friends and family *do* matter but only in the context of the fact that he&#8217;s treating you decently *anyway*. Some guys are all about the public show. In private, they&#8217;re not very nice people and the public don&#8217;t always get to find out their duplicitous side because they don&#8217;t have to engage with him in the way that a romantic relationship demands.<br />
<span class="cluv"> &#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BaggageReclaim-TheGuideToSingleLivingDatingRelationshipsAndOfCourseManTaming/~3/qMaw2EONIDk/" rel="nofollow">Terms &amp; Conditions Apply – Reading the ‘Small Print’ in Dubious Relationships</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Pluma T-Shirts from Sam&#8217;s Club by S. P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for letting me know about the fate of the Puma Shirts.  Years ago I bought several of the Puma shirts from Sams and my husband LOVED them.  I have been in a quest ever since to find more.  Thank you also for your replacement suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for letting me know about the fate of the Puma Shirts.  Years ago I bought several of the Puma shirts from Sams and my husband LOVED them.  I have been in a quest ever since to find more.  Thank you also for your replacement suggestions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does he miss me &#8211; and is he hurting? by bebe</title>
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		<dc:creator>bebe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, this is so true. In the past, I&#039;ve often tried to change people, to make them the ideal man that I think they could and should be. It was only recently that a guy told me I was a brat. Simple as that. &quot;You&#039;re a brat.&quot; Nobody has told me that before (at least not to my face). He couldn&#039;t have been more right. 

So with that realisation, and another chance (i think) with this particular person, I&#039;m taking a different approach to the relationship. Where I used to blame other people for my feelings, I can now take responsibility for the way I feel because I have allowed myself to feel that way. I choose my reactions carefully these days, act with patience and try to listen more than I speak. No longer do I seek perfection, but accept that there are differences and together, we build on strenghts and compensate for weaknesses in the relationship and ourselves.

Thanks for reinforcing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, this is so true. In the past, I&#8217;ve often tried to change people, to make them the ideal man that I think they could and should be. It was only recently that a guy told me I was a brat. Simple as that. &#8220;You&#8217;re a brat.&#8221; Nobody has told me that before (at least not to my face). He couldn&#8217;t have been more right. </p>
<p>So with that realisation, and another chance (i think) with this particular person, I&#8217;m taking a different approach to the relationship. Where I used to blame other people for my feelings, I can now take responsibility for the way I feel because I have allowed myself to feel that way. I choose my reactions carefully these days, act with patience and try to listen more than I speak. No longer do I seek perfection, but accept that there are differences and together, we build on strenghts and compensate for weaknesses in the relationship and ourselves.</p>
<p>Thanks for reinforcing this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on PDAs &#8211; Love, sex, home, and community by Brad K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been recuperating (pinched sciatic nerve/left hip pain) since August.  Thanks for thinking of me!

I think it is a tossup, of being distracted by hormones, rebelling and acting out anti-social behavior, abusing the partner, and being completely unaware of respect or honor, with respect to their partner, their home, or bystanders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been recuperating (pinched sciatic nerve/left hip pain) since August.  Thanks for thinking of me!</p>
<p>I think it is a tossup, of being distracted by hormones, rebelling and acting out anti-social behavior, abusing the partner, and being completely unaware of respect or honor, with respect to their partner, their home, or bystanders.</p>
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		<title>Comment on PDAs &#8211; Love, sex, home, and community by Natalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to see you back! I was about to email you and decided to check your blog and here you are! I have to say - I&#039;m not a prude but it annoys me when people go OTT with PDA. Like on the Tube. Ugh! I think there is a huge difference between little shows of affection between one another and being all over one another. The last line is excellent. I always wonder what someone is trying to prove when they have to have everyone watching.
.-= &#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BaggageReclaim-TheGuideToSingleLivingDatingRelationshipsAndOfCourseManTaming/~3/OrNLTVnq0dQ/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reader Question: How do you teach someone boundaries for a healthy relationship?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see you back! I was about to email you and decided to check your blog and here you are! I have to say &#8211; I&#8217;m not a prude but it annoys me when people go OTT with PDA. Like on the Tube. Ugh! I think there is a huge difference between little shows of affection between one another and being all over one another. The last line is excellent. I always wonder what someone is trying to prove when they have to have everyone watching.<br />
<span class="cluv"> &#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BaggageReclaim-TheGuideToSingleLivingDatingRelationshipsAndOfCourseManTaming/~3/OrNLTVnq0dQ/" rel="nofollow">Reader Question: How do you teach someone boundaries for a healthy relationship?</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on cb: The non-rally for climate change by It&#8217;s About Making Babies! &#187; cb: The living choice &#8211; consumerism or a whole life</title>
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		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s About Making Babies! &#187; cb: The living choice &#8211; consumerism or a whole life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote about why the activism might wane, why governments may have won free of climate change pressure &#8211; [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Does he miss me &#8211; and is he hurting? by Brad K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Bbylove,

By keeping alive all that anger, you keep yourself tied to a life with him in it, even if he is no longer around.  You spend energy, fruitlessly, being attached to the guy.  And you grow even more used to living with anger and hurt in your life.

All the turmoil and focus on him and the past, will continue to keep good, well adjusted men away from you.

Peace - a choice or three away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Bbylove,</p>
<p>By keeping alive all that anger, you keep yourself tied to a life with him in it, even if he is no longer around.  You spend energy, fruitlessly, being attached to the guy.  And you grow even more used to living with anger and hurt in your life.</p>
<p>All the turmoil and focus on him and the past, will continue to keep good, well adjusted men away from you.</p>
<p>Peace &#8211; a choice or three away.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Bbylove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 06:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so true . All i&#039;ve ever wanted to do is hurt my ex to think that one day he will realize and change . But by attempting to hurt him makes the situation much worst, indeed there was an incident which he decided to facebook and not only did his friends and family find out what I said but it also embarassed me and made me sound like the viscious bitch...I now know that trying to change him will never work, regardless of what I do at the end of the day he will still choose to do the things he wants to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so true . All i&#8217;ve ever wanted to do is hurt my ex to think that one day he will realize and change . But by attempting to hurt him makes the situation much worst, indeed there was an incident which he decided to facebook and not only did his friends and family find out what I said but it also embarassed me and made me sound like the viscious bitch&#8230;I now know that trying to change him will never work, regardless of what I do at the end of the day he will still choose to do the things he wants to do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on br: Throw the bum out, and his kids by Brad K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that honor, self respect, and love, and discipline, not to mention self interest, demand that we address any unhappiness our partner experiences as our own.  That, like housecleaning, disaster, calls for help, and community needs, we need to address problems when we encounter them.

Love cannot die without loss of respect, loss of trust, and/or failures of character.

What I see a lot of, is people marrying a &quot;type&quot; - and being disillusioned at the person that breathes and grows underneath the makeup and dating wardrobe and top shelf perfume.  Women that use long hair, back in the old days, to catch a guy&#039;s eye with thoughts of romantic tanglings, and then get the hair cut after the wedding, without even mentioning the change to their new husband, are/were often surprised.  Surprised because the change that to them was solely their own rather modest and ordinary kind of choice - disturbed his definition of who he married.  Lack of communication that to her was due to the choice being hers, was to him a lack of respect.

Yes, love can die, through inattention, through mistakes and ill-considered liberties with character, honor, and respect.  But it hopefully takes a sustained animosity to prevent repairing the damage.

This post was based on a Baggage Reclaim article.  The presumption is similar to that at Baggage Reclaim - that people ill-prepared for a healthy relationship get embroiled in unhealthy relationships, repeatedly, until one decides to break out of the cycle.  The first step is achieving a healthy character and self esteem, the next is selecting a healthy partner-prospect.  And that is why the article doesn&#039;t deal with how and why a relationship falls apart when it starts well.  That wasn&#039;t in the topic for this day.

Did you know that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.okmarriage.org/&quot; rel=&quot;follow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oklahoma has a system&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foreverforreal.com/about/frequently-asked-questions/&quot; rel=&quot;follow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Forever For Real&lt;/a&gt; workshops, for married-to-be couples?  Completing the workshop earns a discount on the marriage license.  Dealing with topics on how to keep a couple together is, even more that sex education, something that healthy people should be learning at home, from living with and watching Mom and Dad and the grandparents.  Yet statistics show that many don&#039;t have the needed skills, or even an understanding of what to do when you or your partner feel unhappy.

Those with strong devotion to their faith, if shared (one aspect of a couple interacting with their community as a unit), have strongly stated expectations about how they are responsible to each other.

Others that chose a partner because of their appearance, their social standing, their wealth or a cloud of lust, have little to guide them - certainly not a trust and belief in their partner&#039;s character and basic worth as a partner and individual.  I find that immensely sad. 

So I recommend finding stable, dependable people of character to associate with, and to avoid the high-risk perpetual daters.  Then if someone catches your eye, you have but to reaffirm the character, lack of red flags, and your own interest in his happiness - and you have a solid basis to build a relationship.  Those that look instead for the sex adventures often end up with little else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that honor, self respect, and love, and discipline, not to mention self interest, demand that we address any unhappiness our partner experiences as our own.  That, like housecleaning, disaster, calls for help, and community needs, we need to address problems when we encounter them.</p>
<p>Love cannot die without loss of respect, loss of trust, and/or failures of character.</p>
<p>What I see a lot of, is people marrying a &#8220;type&#8221; &#8211; and being disillusioned at the person that breathes and grows underneath the makeup and dating wardrobe and top shelf perfume.  Women that use long hair, back in the old days, to catch a guy&#8217;s eye with thoughts of romantic tanglings, and then get the hair cut after the wedding, without even mentioning the change to their new husband, are/were often surprised.  Surprised because the change that to them was solely their own rather modest and ordinary kind of choice &#8211; disturbed his definition of who he married.  Lack of communication that to her was due to the choice being hers, was to him a lack of respect.</p>
<p>Yes, love can die, through inattention, through mistakes and ill-considered liberties with character, honor, and respect.  But it hopefully takes a sustained animosity to prevent repairing the damage.</p>
<p>This post was based on a Baggage Reclaim article.  The presumption is similar to that at Baggage Reclaim &#8211; that people ill-prepared for a healthy relationship get embroiled in unhealthy relationships, repeatedly, until one decides to break out of the cycle.  The first step is achieving a healthy character and self esteem, the next is selecting a healthy partner-prospect.  And that is why the article doesn&#8217;t deal with how and why a relationship falls apart when it starts well.  That wasn&#8217;t in the topic for this day.</p>
<p>Did you know that <a href="http://www.okmarriage.org/" rel="follow" rel="nofollow">Oklahoma has a system</a> of <a href="http://www.foreverforreal.com/about/frequently-asked-questions/" rel="follow" rel="nofollow">Forever For Real</a> workshops, for married-to-be couples?  Completing the workshop earns a discount on the marriage license.  Dealing with topics on how to keep a couple together is, even more that sex education, something that healthy people should be learning at home, from living with and watching Mom and Dad and the grandparents.  Yet statistics show that many don&#8217;t have the needed skills, or even an understanding of what to do when you or your partner feel unhappy.</p>
<p>Those with strong devotion to their faith, if shared (one aspect of a couple interacting with their community as a unit), have strongly stated expectations about how they are responsible to each other.</p>
<p>Others that chose a partner because of their appearance, their social standing, their wealth or a cloud of lust, have little to guide them &#8211; certainly not a trust and belief in their partner&#8217;s character and basic worth as a partner and individual.  I find that immensely sad. </p>
<p>So I recommend finding stable, dependable people of character to associate with, and to avoid the high-risk perpetual daters.  Then if someone catches your eye, you have but to reaffirm the character, lack of red flags, and your own interest in his happiness &#8211; and you have a solid basis to build a relationship.  Those that look instead for the sex adventures often end up with little else.</p>
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