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	<title>Comments on: e-venge - or e-agenda?</title>
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		<title>By: Brad K</title>
		<link>http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/2008/05/07/e-venge-or-e-agenda/#comment-12579</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cheating Girlfriend.  Wow.  Your site is pretty focused - you blame Trish for cheating on you.

And now you portray yourself to the world, as ignorant, vindictive, and spiteful.  What a wonderful way to thank a woman that graced your life for a time.  I mean, you did choose to exchange intimacy with her, didn't you?

And showing yourself to be so unforgiving, so harsh, and so willing to defame this lady - I imagine you are having trouble winning dates today.  Who in their right mind would have time in their life for someone as intent on lashing out as you are?  People that lash out are usually refusing to face their internal fears and doubts, which is what angry and aggressive people seldom find peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cheating Girlfriend.  Wow.  Your site is pretty focused - you blame Trish for cheating on you.</p>
<p>And now you portray yourself to the world, as ignorant, vindictive, and spiteful.  What a wonderful way to thank a woman that graced your life for a time.  I mean, you did choose to exchange intimacy with her, didn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>And showing yourself to be so unforgiving, so harsh, and so willing to defame this lady - I imagine you are having trouble winning dates today.  Who in their right mind would have time in their life for someone as intent on lashing out as you are?  People that lash out are usually refusing to face their internal fears and doubts, which is what angry and aggressive people seldom find peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheating Girlfriend</title>
		<link>http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/2008/05/07/e-venge-or-e-agenda/#comment-12517</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheating Girlfriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well she did it, she cheated. I still can\'t believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well she did it, she cheated. I still can\&#8217;t believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad K</title>
		<link>http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/2008/05/07/e-venge-or-e-agenda/#comment-9535</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,  if that is your name (trolls so seldom identify themselves properly), please feel free to be polite, accurate, and compassionate.  Elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,  if that is your name (trolls so seldom identify themselves properly), please feel free to be polite, accurate, and compassionate.  Elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/2008/05/07/e-venge-or-e-agenda/#comment-9531</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 11:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a load of rubbish. Natalie Lue is a stalker and a headcase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a load of rubbish. Natalie Lue is a stalker and a headcase.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad K</title>
		<link>http://www.itsaboutmakingbabies.com/2008/05/07/e-venge-or-e-agenda/#comment-9402</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang, NML, replying to you is tough.  I am *so* wanting to say something biting and gnarly about the article in the Daily Mail - but it all sounds snide when I type it out.

I think that she takes an emotionally unavailable perspective.  That is, she sees the surface stuff, but there is no empathy for the subjects.  Ms. Topham may be standing back and thinking, "Dumped.  Hell, everyone gets dumped.  These whiners shouldn't be making such a stink."  She may acknowledge that the pain caused to the affected women deserves some outlet, but she is clearly thinking that both parties in each case are balanced, reasonable people - and that there is no major dysfunction involved.

In some breakups she may be correct.  And I can see that Tired of Men probably started out along that typical pattern.  But the direction changed for you and for your readers.  I can remember references back 40 and 50 years that journaling, writing things down, was a powerful tool for realizing the need for change, and for implementing change.

And that is probably what I object to most about the Mail article - she compares your nearly anonymous journaling of your dating experiences with the women that actively break the law, destroy property, and maliciously cause deliberate harm.  Oh, and she didn't follow your story past the part that worked for your article.  She skipped the part where very few of your readers identify the people central to the pain in their relationships.  Most of the dialog is about healing and self-examination (well, maybe some advice), and never about who the individual is.  Any name-calling is always anonymous on Baggage Reclaim.

Thanks for the kind words right back at you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang, NML, replying to you is tough.  I am *so* wanting to say something biting and gnarly about the article in the Daily Mail - but it all sounds snide when I type it out.</p>
<p>I think that she takes an emotionally unavailable perspective.  That is, she sees the surface stuff, but there is no empathy for the subjects.  Ms. Topham may be standing back and thinking, &#8220;Dumped.  Hell, everyone gets dumped.  These whiners shouldn&#8217;t be making such a stink.&#8221;  She may acknowledge that the pain caused to the affected women deserves some outlet, but she is clearly thinking that both parties in each case are balanced, reasonable people - and that there is no major dysfunction involved.</p>
<p>In some breakups she may be correct.  And I can see that Tired of Men probably started out along that typical pattern.  But the direction changed for you and for your readers.  I can remember references back 40 and 50 years that journaling, writing things down, was a powerful tool for realizing the need for change, and for implementing change.</p>
<p>And that is probably what I object to most about the Mail article - she compares your nearly anonymous journaling of your dating experiences with the women that actively break the law, destroy property, and maliciously cause deliberate harm.  Oh, and she didn&#8217;t follow your story past the part that worked for your article.  She skipped the part where very few of your readers identify the people central to the pain in their relationships.  Most of the dialog is about healing and self-examination (well, maybe some advice), and never about who the individual is.  Any name-calling is always anonymous on Baggage Reclaim.</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words right back at you!</p>
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		<title>By: NML</title>
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		<dc:creator>NML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, you put it all so eloquently! It is shocking to find myself included in this piece but I and my readers know the truth. I agree that it's very gossipy and shallow and you are so on point with your comment about them not making the distinction. Thanks for your very kind words!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, you put it all so eloquently! It is shocking to find myself included in this piece but I and my readers know the truth. I agree that it&#8217;s very gossipy and shallow and you are so on point with your comment about them not making the distinction. Thanks for your very kind words!</p>
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